Tuesday, May 20, 2014
Anzaldua: The Coatlicue State
After discussing the image/figure of Coatlicue for the Aztecs (Mexica), discuss the “Coatlicue State” as a state/moment of transformation. What forces a person into this critical moment? How does “Coatlicue,” according to Anzaldúa, help us cope with painful experiences?
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Coatlicue is a fusion of several Aztec and Mexica goddesses. She represents the dualistic spirituality of Latinas, and the transcendence of that dualism. Catholic and Eurocentric culture has repressed the empowering nature of Coatlicue by rewriting her as La Virgen de Guadalupe, a deity that does not threaten the patriarchal system. To enter the Coatlicue State, one gains a new awareness of the spiritual world. It is often easier for victims of ostracization and oppression to enter this State, as feeling unwelcome in the material world may prompt one to seek solace in the world of the soul. In this way, the Coatlicue State becomes a method of coping with the double oppression faced by women of color.
ReplyDeleteI really liked your response. I think that it was well-written and thoroughly answered the prompt. I appreciated how you gave background on who Coatlicue is and then explained the Coatlicue State in an effective manner.
DeleteYour response answers the part of why the “Coatlicue State” helps cope with painful experiences but I do not think you addressed why people are led to it the state. Perhaps a good way to to address this is to look at what are the painful experiences that people faced and or face and how they affect the soul. Other than that i think you're response is thorough and on point
DeleteI agree with Gabriel and Katia that it is well written and I love that you include who Coatlicue is. I also think that you need to include how that state is induced, and what other effects it has on a person. Other than that, your response gives a great perspective to the question.
DeleteAccording to Gloria Anzaldúa, the Coatlicue State is a state of restful transformation that results from a traumatic time or experience. It is a time when the soul is propelled “to do its work: make soul, increase consciousness of itself” (Anzaldúa 68). Essentially, the Coatlicue State is a time of recovery for a person to process painful experiences and come out a more enlightened, different person. If one does not use “Coatlicue to slow…up…the psyche” to “process the changes,” (68) he or she may be stuck and not move forward in life or as a person.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree that the Coatlique state is a time for the soul to gain a better sense of consciousness of itself, I disagree when you say it is a state of restful transformation. Rather, I depicted the state as one that is painful and a struggle to get through. This is why Anzaldúa refers to the state as “that paralysis, depression” (Anzaldúa 70). She also mentions being resistant to take part in the stage, even though the transformation is one that is needed. In fact, this is why Coatlicue is needed. It seems that her role is to help those go the transformation process, because it is one that is so difficult. If anything, the rest period comes afterwards, when the person gains a new perspective and is in full realization of who they are as a person. Aside from that, I think you have really good ideas.
DeleteGood job Katia, but I do agree with Elizabeth. I believe one of the reasons why Coatlicue might be praised is because of the spiritual help she gives to those that believe. The transformation might be of great difficulty, but the results are rewarding.
DeleteI like how you address Anzaldua's ideas on the Coatlicue State as a "time of recovery," but I think Anzaldua also argued that the Coatlicue State could be a state of being as well, or a way of life.
DeleteCoatlicue is an Aztec figure that is a collection of important religious and philosophical symbols of the Aztecs, as well as “a symbol of the fusion of opposites” (Anzaldúa 69). With the help of Coatlicue and the Coatlicue state, we are able to gain a type of consciousness and awareness that allows us to recognize the whole truth about ourselves and our soul. A person is forced into this Coatlicue state when they feel inadequate or “the threat of shame or fear” as a result of being different from others (Anzaldúa 67). Rather than embracing those differences, they attempt to busy themselves with other parts of their lives, so that they may not come to realize the truth about themselves, but rather to hide it away. Coatlicue helps us to cope with these painful experiences by forcing us to take the time, such as by laying us with an illness, to slow down and make meaning out of those experiences. We are then able to use that meaning to allow us to “see things in a different perspective”, in order to work towards attaining who we are as our complete selves (Anzaldúa 71). It is a difficult journey to gain such consciousness, and Coatlicue works to encourage and help ensure that we are not alone in the process.
ReplyDeleteI liked how your response really seemed to flow. It was easy for me to follow what you were saying when you first explained who Coatlicue was and what she represented within the Aztec culture, and then followed that by discussing her significance, saying she "forc[es] us to take the time...to slow down and make meaning out of those experiences". I though it was very effective. Good job!
DeleteI agree that the Coatlicue State gives us a type of consciousness and awareness. I thought it was interesting the idea on how a person is forced into the Coatlicue State. I do believe that the state is universal and serves as an explanation for why good and bad things happen. It is nice to know that everything doesn't just happen for no particular reason.
DeleteI think this was an incredibly complicated chapter and it was very hard for me, personally, to understand the theory of Coatlicue. So, I was scrolling down the posts and reading other peoples responses to try to get a better understanding of what this state is all about and I think yours helped me get a better grasp of the theory. I thought the organization of your response was really good and helped layout the structure of how Coatlicue is a journey and what cases that journey.
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ReplyDeleteMr. Saldivar
Latin American/Latin@ Literature, 2/6B
May 21, 2014
The Coatlicue State
In chapter four of Gloria Anzaldúa’s Borderlands, Anzaldúa writes of the personal significance of the goddess Coatlicue, as well as of the cultural significance she has for the Aztecs. Coatlicue is seen as a goddess who represents “the contradictory” and who contains “symbols important to the religion and philosophy of the Aztecs”, thus becoming an essential figure for everyone of the culture (Anzaldúa 69). She specifically relates to their lives through the Coatlicue state, which is a state of transformation that allows a person to stop and become more aware of who they are. By “plung[ing] them into the underworld” , immersing them into a difficult experience, those individuals uncover who they truly are (Anzaldúa 68). Coatlicue drives a person to that state of despair, forcing them to “confront her face to face” despite their “resistance to knowing” (Anzaldúa 70). By the end of the Coatlicue state, the person either becomes more complete, or “will remain a stone forever”, emphasizing the importance of Coatlicue in developing the individual (Anzaldúa 71).
It's interesting how you contextualized the Coatlicue state because you mention that one can either grow or "remain a stone forever". I had a different idea of what the Coatlicue state is, but after reading your response, I realized that there a various ways to define this state.
DeleteThe “Coatlicue state” is a transcendence of the soul into a state in order for it to be able to cope with the painful experiences and challenges the soul faces. When people are driven to the “Coatlicue state” it is from a result of “paralysis” and “depression” of the soul, due to the very same being feeling the sense of if its very own existence as inadequate. Thus the soul turns to “Coatlicue state” a state where the entity learns to self validate its own existence by becoming conscious of itself by becoming aware of its nature. This process in turn allows the soul to cope with the experiences of dejection it once faced and perhaps will continue to face.
ReplyDeleteI really like you explanation of the Coatlicue state, but I feel like you could have stated it a bit more clearly where you wrote "due to the very same being feeling the sense of its very own existence as inadequate." It's a bit wordy and there are a lot of "its" rather than pronouns.
DeleteThis is a very clear response. I like the way you connected everything in a way that it all flowed. Your description of the Coatlicue state is very well worded.
DeleteI think that you did a good job putting your response together, it flowed very well. Your ideas were very well explained and your elaboration was good too.
DeleteKnowledge is a powerful tool but it can also cause pain. This is the reason why they say that the truth hurts. However, when knowledge becomes painful it forces the individual to reflect and react. This concept is presented in chapter 4 of Borderlands by Gloria Anzaldua. According to Anzaldua once she knows something, she cannot simply “stay in the same place and be comfortable” (Anzaldua 70). Anzaldua mentions that resistance to the truth and “depression—brings on the Coatlicue state” (Anzaldua 70), which suggests that this is a form of coping and reflection. According to Anzaldua there a different stages in this coping mechanism. First is knowledge or figuring out what causes the dissatisfaction. After that one must face the truth: “walk toward the mirror, and confront the face in the mirror” (Anzaldua 70). Finally is the acceptance of the truth which can only be achieved by realizing that there is nothing wrong. Once one realizes “que no hay más que cambiar” (Anzaldua 71), Coatlicue who will never let anyone go, welcomes one into her arms. Therefore the Coatlicue state is a universal concept which is used by almost everyone it just happens to have various names and some refer to it as reflecting or even a mystical experience.
ReplyDeleteI like how you contextualized the Coatlicue state using other examples while still maintaining the integrity of how Anzaldua defined it, it helps further understand the text without watering it down.
DeleteI liked how you elaborated on specific "stages" of The Coatlicue state and related it to Anzaldua... You mention "mirrors" in your quote supporting the concept of "facing the truth," however what exactly are the mirrors? What is their purpose in "facing the truth"? Also your concluding sentence was a little repetitive in stating that the Coatlicue state was a universal concept yet there isn't a clear explanation as to why. Overall I enjoyed reading your response, just some statements were unclear.
DeleteThose who are forced into the Coatlicue State are those who are trapped within a dichotomy unable to be one or the other causing the people to feel that there is "something fundamentally 'wrong' with them"(Anzaldua 67). Coatlicue, seen as a being of the contradictory, attempts to help those come to term with the duality that exists within themselves. This is not a simple or painless process, as those who cannot take the time to look within themselves will be halted by the duality in order to explore oneself int he duality in order to come to a more complete state, letting the wound of the serpent being cured by the serpent (Anzaldua 68)
ReplyDeleteI really liked the quote you used in the beginning. I don't feel the connection of how this state helps you cope with pain or in any manner. I really like the quotes you took to explain your ideas.
DeleteThe Coatlicue state is when the soul explores and embraces its contradictions. Once one recognizes is contradictions he or she is able to crossover because they are no longer deceived into believing they are a polarized individual. The Coatlicue state comes after long time of repression, people are inherently multi-dimensional but due to societies normative expectations are usually forced to ignore the "underground aspects of the psyche" (Anzaldua 68). Coatlicue state is often happens in a state of great despair which one is often taught to ward off their darkness instead of exploring it. Coatlicue helps understand painful experiences and make sense of them instead of just trying to fix or cure each darkness one experiences.
ReplyDeleteI really like how you explained why the Coatlicue state happens, well worded. This actually helped me understand this a little better. nice job
DeleteYou did really well at explaining each aspect of the Coatlicue state. Great response.
DeleteI really like how you mentioned that societies expect to view people through a simple and normative lens, not even paying note to the dualities that most people face, which makes me think back to the idea of objectification of cultures and thus, misunderstanding people.
DeleteThe "Coatlicue State" happens when someone goes though something big in their life or traumatic. Their disturbed life is what brings the state upon them to cope with what they are going through. Anzaldua says that the state had her, "closing, hiding holding" herself together without letting her issue bother her, this is the work of the "Coatlicue State" (70).
ReplyDeleteDo you think the Coatlicue state is really just a coping mechanism or is it a more transformative period in a person's life?
DeleteAlthough I do understand how you van view the Coatlicue state as a coping mechanism, I do not view it as that. I believe that the state serves as a time of reflection, allowing you to look back at past experiences and grow from them. The Coatlicue state exposes individual vulnerabilities to help you uncover who you truly are internally.
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ReplyDeleteMr. Saldivar
Latin American/Latin@ Literature, 4
May 21, 2014
The “Coatlicue State” is a state of realization induced by a painful experience. A person recovering from trauma becomes enlightened and has a new point of view of people and things, thus entering the “Coatlicue State”. It is a state of knowing and being aware of surroundings, understanding how one thing affects another.
I think this is a great portrayal of what the Coatlicue State is. It is an interesting perspective where those who need, take, and those who are fortunate enough to not experience trauma are privileged enough to not NEED faith. I think you could have elaborated on where the state comes from (Coatlicue herself) and how she and the state are responsible for helping individuals cope with their trauma.
DeleteFabian Ramos
ReplyDeleteMr. Saldivar
Latin American Literature-4th Period
May 21, 2014
In the fourth chapter of “Borderlands/ La Frontera”, author Gloria Anzaldúa presents the Aztec goddess Coatlicue as the giver and taker of life, therefore representing the duality and contradiction of the cosmic processes.Along with the Aztec culture as a whole, the goddess Coatlicue was suppressed by the western culture, and ultimately rewritten as Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe. Being worshipped as both the Virgin Guadalupe and Coatlicue, the goddess maintained duality in her identity as well. When the descendants of Coatlicue were unable to reconcile their own dual identities imposed upon them by the western culture, the goddess “devoured” them into the Coatlicue state (Anzaldúa 64). The Coatlicue state is characterized as an abysmal “mirror”, where the individual is forced to confront the opposing aspects of themself (Anzaldúa 70). By means of susto, Coatlicue aids the individual in attaining a conscious and cosmic completeness.
Coatlicue is a goddess of "birth and death… giv[ing] and tak[ing] away life…[and] symbolize[s] life and death together as parts of one process" (Anzaldúa 68-69). Anzaldúa explains that there are times when some people try to "escape the threat of shame or fear" (Anzaldúa 67) they tend to use compulsive and repetitive defense mechanisms, such as becoming addicted to drugs, in order to distract themselves. "The feeling [of shame or fear] is censored and erased before it registers in [their] consciousness" (Anzaldúa 67). Through these defense mechanisms, Coatlicue causes them to pause their lives and "let the wound caused by the serpent to be cured by the serpent" (Anzaldúa 68), a need caused by a past experience; this is the Coatlicue state. Once the person is in this state of darkness and healing, it either "lead[s] [them] toward becoming more of who [they] are...or they can remain meaningless…[this state either being] a way station or… a way of life" (Anzaldúa 68)
ReplyDeleteYou contextualized this piece really well. Your response was very fluid. Good job!
DeleteCoatlicue is the goddess that symbolizes “the fusion of opposites” when something is both the “eagle and the servant”. The Coatlicue State is described by Anzaldua as an “internal whirlpool”. The state of being that symbolizes internal conflict, and the moment leading to a life-alternating event. The Coatlicua state forces a person to confront the cause of conflict, “when I reach bottom, something forces me to push up, walk toward the mirror, confront the face in the mirror” despite resisting to know (Anzaldua 70). The Coatlicua State helps personal development.
ReplyDeleteI like the way you incorporated quotes to support your argument although you should try to elaborate more on how the coatlicue state helps an individual cope with painful experiences. other than that you did a good job in defining what the concept means.
DeleteThe coatlicue state forces a person to confront themselves by facing the mirror and looking at her monstrous reflection. This act helps a person to cope with painful experiences because it opens the possibility for them to “see” and make meaning out of them. During the coatlicue state a person is forced to slow down and rest so that the soul can heal itself but also for the person to stop and react to their feelings. The coatlicue state can help you make two changes, it either takes you to heaven, a place in which an individual gains knowledge and learns more about themselves, or takes them to the underworld where a person is trapped by fear and frozen in stone. According to Anzaldua, shame is what drives a person to the coatlicue state, the feeling that something is wrong with them therefore that individual seeks a defense strategy that results in an addiction, opening the doors to the coatlicue state
ReplyDeleteIn chapter four of Borderlands Anzaldua The coatlicue state is seen as an image that helps you cope with things in a mental level. "Simultaneously, depending on the person, she represents: duaility in life, a synthesis of duality, and a third perspective---something more than mere duality or a synthesis of duality" (Anzaldua 68). This explains how you cope things in life throw a fresh perspective. It is neither from the view of one or the other nor a mixture it's simply from a very unbiased standpoint. It helps you analyze the situation without the emotional attachment someone may have. The coatlique state is the state in which you see the outside world through the viewpoint of your soul and leave behind any physical aspect.
ReplyDeleteI really liked how you explained this quote. It jumped out at me while reading and agree that the fresh perspective gives you a different view on your pain. The disconnection with emotion and how it makes an impact on the healing/coping process.
DeleteI don't know why but it seems like the Coatlicue state is like double consciousness in some sort of sense. Not entirely similar but the aspects of self reflecting on yourself based on new perspectives.
DeleteAccording to Anzaldua, the Coatlicue State is a state that brings out the truth and makes the individual conscience. “Coatlicue depicts the contradictory” (Anzaldua 69), therefore this state will depict reality versus the fantasy (what everyone likes to believe). The more she resist the more knowledge it’s thrown at her. The more she tries to deny the truth the deeper the Coatlucue State will draw her in. Every knowledge gained is a ‘travesia, a crossing” (Anzadua 70) in which she moves beyond the fantasy world and becomes painfully aware of reality. The State not only brings awareness but serves as a coping mechanism. While the truth can cause one to sink “deeper and deeper” (Anzaldua 70), before reaching the bottom one will be mirrored with reality. The healing process comes when one begins the travesia of acting on the knowledge gained. Once knowledge is gained “I can’t stay in the place and be comfortable” (Anzaldua 70) it becomes a healing power for oneself as well as others. The Coatlicue State it is essentially the reason for everything, why bad things happen to good people…?
ReplyDeleteI liked how you explained the significance of the symbols of contradiction that Coatlicue represents. It is essential in understanding how falling into this state allows an individual to better grasp their understanding of their own identity because they begin to challenge the institutions that seek to oppress them. This response was well done!
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ReplyDelete"In a glance lies awareness, knowledge," (Anzaldua 64). Anzaldua describes this glance with a mirror, it can be "seen" and "see", it "projects" and "posses," it's a "barrier" and it is a "door," and its purpose is for the soul (Anzaldua 64). This door is blocked by fear, fear that throws up "defense strategies [that] keep [the] awareness [of a glance] at bay" (Anzaldua 67) Thus people "remain ignorant," to their chances at awareness, they cover their mirrors murmuring encouragements of, "if we can't see[my] face of fear... it must not be there" (Anzaldua 67). The Coatlicue goddess permeates mental defenses, and plunges her host into her "gaping mouth...[into] her her maw" (Anzaldua 67, 69). She induces the revered fear, suffering, and pain, and "she takes away life," (Anzaldua 68). However she is also the goddess of life, without death there cannot be life, therefore she destroys in order to create. The Coatlicue state, does just this, one must engulf themselves in darkness, destroy their barriers, confront their fear, and look into the mirror to see their face. Although pain and suffering are noted as a consequence, the individual is reborn with a new sense, sight. This sight grants awareness and releases the oppression of blindness; blindness to fear, to weakness, to demise. Anzaldua relates this to the crosser, as they face not only the mental but physical fear of "[not] find[ing] [their] way back" (65). Allowing themselves to experience negative emotion, and to acknowledge their inner "Coatlicue" and all her wrath, brings the reward of creation, of life, of awareness, and of knowledge.
I like this. It's like you wove your own narrative out of her explanation. Reminds me of "Sinners in the Hands of an An Angry God" when you described how Coalticue functions, only it's been twisted for an optimistic approach. An "after the storm comes a rainbow" sort of thing instead of just completely morbid.
DeleteThe Coatlicue is a state of transition that every person will go through in their life. They may not know it as the Coatlicue state, but they will experience it nonetheless. Coatlicue is a goddess characterized by contradictions. She is torn between worlds, which is fitting as Anzaldua's symbolic guardian of the threshold of deeper understanding of oneself and one's environment. Every person will go through a time in their life where every piece of themselves is pulling in different directions, and the only way to find meaning in any of it is to delve deeper into the experience for a fuller understanding of self. Many people come out the other side of this a with a greater command over self and a deeper understanding of their environment. Many people do not have the strength of will or character to pull through such a torrential period, and give up or stagnate which leads them to "remain a stone forever" (Anzaldua 71)
ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue is a hybrid of different goddesses that represent Chicanas and their inner "reincarnations". These serpents are contradictory by how they can represent good and evil but at the same time they can reflect hope and failure.An individual is caught in the state of Coatlicue by the "...the refusal to know some truth about myself brings on that paralysis, depression." (Anzaldua 71). When on the state of Coatlicue there is a stage of discovering how oneself can be an obstacle for themselves. As Anzaldua stats, "let the wound caused by the serpent be cured by the serpent." (72). The serpents are what empower the Chicana and unite them to understand and help with their struggle.
ReplyDeleteI like how you talked about the serpents and what they represent. I agree with the points you made however I think you could explain more on how she helps them to cope. You also used the quotes well.
DeleteI sort of agree with this, but I would say that the contradiction is more of an offset or a balance. I think that the fact that the are such opposites or contradictory that they are able to restore the balance to a person's life. I think that once a person has discovered themselves there is balance that is found from wading through the contradictory nature of the situation.
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ReplyDelete"The Coatlicue depicts the contrdictory... She is the fusion of opposites: the eagle and the serpant, heaven and the underworld, life and death, mobility and immobility, beauty and the horror (Anzaldua 69)." To Gloria Anzaldua, the Coatlique State has taken a new meaning. She is a contradiction. Being chicana is a contradiction because it blends two distinct, differentc cultures but is unable to be accepted by either one. Chican@s have to make their own culture and identity even they are made up of two existing cultures. Another contradiction is her sexuality. Being raised in a traditional mexican household which practices its own indigenous roman Catholicism, she made the conscious choice to be lesbian. She contradicts this part of her culture and puts herself in this "coatlicue state."
Interesting thoughts. I didn't expand mine to what you were saying but you left out the idea of how Coatlicue helps with coping with painful experiences. I do think the connections you made can be justified. Though the structure was a bit odd to myself because it jumps from ideas without a transition.
DeleteAnzaldua presents the "Coatlicue state" as a transition period the soul goes through in hard times. Depression caused by the need for self validation, confirming ones existence, causes the soul to go into the "Coatlicue state". Coatlicue is found in the mirror, which means it is a time one must look at their soul and self reflect, "behind the ice mask I see my own eyes" (Anzaldua 70). Coatlicue helps a person cope with their problems by forcing them to face the problem and stop ignoring it. People often try to avoid looking in this "mirror" because it makes their problems a reality, however Coatlicue helps set them free. She states "let the wound caused by the serpent be cured by the serpent" meaning you let yourself get to this state, and you'll have to be the one to get yourself out (Anzaldua 72). Coatlicue is rough to face but she instills the strength people need to get themselves up from the "underworld".
ReplyDeleteAmber, I really appreciate your explanation of the serpent quote. I was having trouble understanding what it meant and you did a nice job of evaluating it. I think it would have been a little bit stronger if you had explained what the mirror represents through textual support.
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DeleteIn chapter 4, Anzaldua brings up the idea of the Coatlicue state as a way of healing. The Coatlicue state is a conceptual place, deeply rooted in Amerindian culture, that facilitates healing through introspection and confrontation of the past and fears. A person would be thrust into this place by a traumatic or a major life changing event. Being in this place and following through this experience doesn't necessarily transform as it evolves a person into a better and strong version of themselves. By looking at yourself and this event the person is able to develop a new understanding of themselves as a whole and as it relates to the situation that has thrust them to that point.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter three of "Borderlands" by Gloria Anzaldua, she explained that "my resistance, my refusual to know some truth about myself brings on the paralysis depression- brings on the Coatlicue state" (Anzaldua 70), the rebellion against herself [Anzaldua], knowing everything about herself, good and bad, forced her into a state of "depression". It is to my understanding that when one is unable to face themselves and embrace themselves with their flaw, that the Coatlicue state begins. Coatlicue is essentially, a reflection of oneself , and once the state begins it is impossible to cease. The job of Coatlicue is to reveal to one, what they refuse to see and accept about themselves. In this process, the individual become one with them-self and becomes self validated, "completa".
ReplyDeleteShort and to the point. Great synthesis of the chapter. You brought all the major points into perspectives when they had seemed slightly scattered before. Especially about the mirror image, the inner struggle and a striving to become complete.
DeleteCoatlicue is often referred to as a monster in many occasions. “Coatlicue da luz a todo y a todo devora” (Anzaldua 68), she becomes this symbol of duality for the Aztec-Mexi culture. “The statue of this life-in-death and death-in-life” (Anzaldua 69), becomes a duality encompasses the opposed and paradoxical. Life being the beginning and death the end become the same thing in this rotational mental state. Pain, suffering, and death Anzaldua says are intolerable but we can trust in the hands of Coatlicue. She, the earth, devours us and keeps us occupied to revert the intolerable suffering to an everyday existing that no longer causes fear because you of “releasing la Coatlicue”.
ReplyDeleteYesenia, your response brought on an interesting perspective that I would not have gotten on my own. I thought you did a great job of explaining yourself at the end of your response. However, I think your third sentence is a bit confusing.
DeleteCoatlicue was the major deity for the Aztecs during the time of matrilineal descent; later after the Aztecs became a military state, she would be replaced by Huitzilopochtli. "Coatlicue depicts the contradictory" (Anzaldua 69) because she was the balance between genders before the change; she embodied the paradoxes of "life and death", masculine and feminine ("eagle and serpent"), "beauty and horror" and "mobility and immobility" (Anzaldua 69). When understanding the "Coatlicue State", the duality of this goddess, in terms of mobility and immobility become very important. Anzaldua personally views Coatlicue as an inner-self as part of her suprahuman self, a consciousness. The state of this goddess is initiated by, "greatest disappointments and painful experiences" (Anzaldua 68), which presents a crossroad to mobility and immobility; Marginalized people face this daily by the simple action of existing which is a threat to dominant structures. After such circumstances most, "in order to escape the threat of shame or fear," "take on a compulsive, repetitious activity as thought to busy oneself" (Anzaldua 67). while the goal of the struggle caused by the serpent was, " so that the psyche can assimilate previous experiences and process the changes" (Anzaldua 68), these experiences can, "be a way station" or " a way of life". To continue to repress any awareness creates a catalyst or way station for addictions to develop, while to learn something and apply it in order to understand and accept your own self is to successfully transition in the "Coatlicue State" and be cured by the serpent. Coatlicue in this way encourages us to deal with painful experiences by empowering and completing ourselves which can be accomplished through gaining knowledge from all the experiences which have brought us so far. This gives us the mobility to move forward, expand who we are, and take the first step toward creating our own spaces: ceasing to be afraid of our own individuality and power.
ReplyDeleteI forgot to explicitly state toward the beginning that the disappoints and painful experiences evolve from an internal conflict. This concept is explained on page 64 with Anzaldua's mention of the mirror and gazing upon one's self as, "the act of being seen, held immobilized by a glance, and 'seeing through' an experience" as symbolized by goddess Coatlicue.
DeleteAccording to Gloria Anzaldua, La Coatlicue is the "Goddess of birth and death...she is the incarnation of cosmic processes" (Anzaldua 68). In the coatlicue state, an individual experiences the paralysis of intense realization regarding their own identity. The coatlicue state is easier to reach when an individual has experienced oppression and they wish to find comfort and acceptance from another world. Coatlicue is known as La Virgen de Guadalupe in Catholicism and she is one of the three forms of this deity that does not challenge the patriarchy of Christianity. This perpetuates the cycle of oppression for women of color because La Virgen is seen as a role model for Chicanas and if La Virgen does not challenge the patriarchy present in religion, then, it is expected that no woman will challenge their roles in society. La Coatlicue represents the contradictions of life, such as "the eagle and the serpent, heaven and the underworld, life and death" (Anzaldua 69). Falling into this state allows Chicanas, like Anzaldua, to rebel against the guidelines that her religion and community seek to restrain her with.
ReplyDeleteIt is a valid point you bring up connecting this chapter and how sh is expoilied to how the virgen de Guadalupe had been ecploiited, but also allowes for empowerment
DeleteGloria Anzaldúa created the coatlicue state to give others an empowering term to describe internal conflict. When one is experiencing the coatlicue state one is suffering through a time when they need to find themselves and everything they are worth. The coatlicue state allows for those to "make soul and increase consciousness" (Anzaldúa 68) it simply lets "the wound caused by the serpent be cured by the serpent" (Anzaldúa 68). Often times, those who live in between many different cultures experience an identity crisis based on not knowing which culture to follow. When the coatlicue state kicks in, there is a type of revelation and those with their internal conflicts will then have solutions. Their identities will no longer become a fear that will constantly haunt them, but rather something they will be proud of.
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DeleteI enjoyed your beginning sentence and how it clarified the Coatlicue State, but I feel like it over-simplified and made it lose a little of it meaning/impact.
In chapter 4 of Gloria Anzaldua's Borderlands, the author focuses on the creation of Coatlicue and the psychological effects it has on the person. To get to this stage the person must experience a stage in which there is the persistent thought of judgment and shame on oneself. Anzaldua's described her as 'all the symbols important to the religion and philosophy of the Aztecs are integrated' (Anzaldua 69). That is why it is described as a collection of thoughts that try to contradict the person's thoughts. She talks about the " many strategies that the self uses to escape the agony of inadequacy "(Anzaldua 67). Coatlique helps cope with loss as it helps with the person to try personal values and own relfection.
ReplyDeleteI didn't really get this from the text the first time I read it through, but thanks to your insight, I kind of understand that point a bit more.
DeleteRuben, I like your understanding of the coatlicue state. When i first read this chapter I didnt think the way you did so I really liked how you stated that the reason it is described as a contradiction to ones thoughts is because Coatlicue is actually a combination of symbols and philosophies of the aztecs. Good job!
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ReplyDeleteCoatlicue is a goddess of unity. It seems like it is very related to the Yin and Yang of Chinese philosophy. It can also be related to In Lak'ech. All of these deal with accepting who you are and who you are not. "Behind the [facade] I see my own eyes" (Anzaldúa 70). People generally live to self actualise themselves. In order to really reach the full potential, one must learn to see their opposite and integrate it with who they think they are.
You clearly identified what Coatlicue was. I like how u were able to connect the chinese philosophy of Yin and Yang to it as well as In Lak'ech. I agree with you statement that one must integrate their opposite into who they are to become versitile or reach full potential.
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ReplyDeleteIn chapter four of Gloria Anzaldúa’s Borderlands, Anzaldúa writes about the significance of Coatlicue. Coatlicue is an Aztec figure that is a mixture of important religious and philosophical symbols of the Aztecs, as well as “a symbol of the fusion of opposites” and represents “the contradictory” (Anzaldúa 69). She specifically relates to their lives through the Coatlicue state, which is a state of transformation that allows a person to slow down and become more aware of their surroundings. With the help of Coatlicue and the Coatlicue state, we are able to gain a type of consciousness and awareness that allows us to recognize the truth about ourselves and our soul. By forcing us to slow down and take our time, we are able to form meanings out of usual mundane events. . We are then able to use that meaning to allow us to “see things in a different perspective”, in order to work towards attaining who we are, and by the end of the Coatlicue state, the person either becomes complete, or “will remain a stone forever”, (Anzaldúa 71).
You contextualized this piece really well. Your response was very fluid. Good job!
DeleteIn chapter four we learn about Coatlicue. She represents different things depending on the person. To Anzaldua "the goddess of birth and death," she represents the opposites( Anzaldua 69). Coatlicue gives and takes life away. She is one to respect enough to fear but at the same time appreciate the life she gives. Coatlicue helps to those that are faithful to her by keeping the "conscious mind occupied" allowing the difficult process be less dreadful. Although the process is not one that is easy the end results are rewarding bring peace and comfort.
ReplyDeleteYou did a great job explaining Coatlicue and what she represents, which allows you to better explain your response and answer the question. I agree that time allows for the mind to be occupied and allows for the change to process.
DeleteGreat respond I like the way you mention that Coatlicue is the one to respect enough to fear.
DeleteThe Coatlicue state is a state of contradiction in which "all the symbols important to the religion and philosophy of the Aztecs are integrated...a symbol of the fusion of opposites". (69) The Coatlicue state is a transition as it takes someone from complacency to knowledge. The example Anzaldua uses of this is how Mexicans are constantly labeled as lazy and many times end up believing that they are lazy. Through entering the Coatlicue state Mexicans may gain a sense of understanding and break through from accepting ignorance to finding and possessing knowledge of themselves. I believe Anzaldua is arguing that Coatlicue is the discovery of oneself through fusing together the opposites of oneself. Once somebody crosses over through Coatlicue they are able to view another life, "It is only when she is on the other side and the shell cracks open and the lid from her eyes lifts that she sees things in a different perspective. It is only then that she makes the connections, formulates the insights." (71). The Coatlicue state helps to deal with painful experiences because it offers that new perspective to find where the pain is coming from and how to either eliminate or use that pain to further benefit the self. Once one has a greater understanding they can control and manage the pain they are experiencing, and Anzaldua is defining this powerful self understanding as Coatlicue.
ReplyDeleteI really like how your examples truly embody your perception of Coatlicue and how you connected them to Anzaldua's passage.
DeleteYour answer explained the Coatlicue state very well and in a good sense. The analysis and support from the text seem to go side by side and the connection can be seen. I liked your take on the question and how you incorporated the parts of "fusing together the opposites of oneself". Well worded and good answer, good job.
DeleteIn Chapter 4, Gloria Anzaldua explains the significance of Coatlicue when coping with painful experiences such as oppression. When one reaches the "Coatlicue State" it is a painful experience as one become's more conscious and allows them to reflect on their life. One is given the duality of Coatlicue in which they can look at both reality and the concrete. They are able to fuse them and understand a better sense of the world as usually one has to look at the cold hard reality which can be suprising to one as what one knows or likes to believe is usually fantasy. Coatlicue wants one to understand this so she does nott just throw it on you, but usually makes you slw down and take the time to understand the new understanding of the world that one has after they have gone through the "Coatlicue State"
ReplyDeleteI really like your answer. I like how you incorporated the process of fusing all of their experience in order to gain a better understanding of self.
DeleteCoatlicue is a mixture of Aztec and other indigenous figures representing the” contradictory” of life (Anzaldua 70). She has been rewritten as the virgin de Guadalupe as a result of western influence but nevertheless she still represents the duality in life. one can enter the Coatlicue state after an immense tragedy, pain, or even after a life changing event. The state allows the person to reflect and “assimilate previous experiences and process the changes” (Anzaldua 68). These changes allow us to better understand who we are by making us analyze our own misfortunes to learn from them.
ReplyDeleteI liked how you brought up the comparison to the Virgen de Guadalupe and how that represents the western influence. However, from your response I don't fully understand Coatlicue's role in allowing one to better understand themselves or to help one grow.
DeleteCoatlicue is an Aztec figure and is, "a symbol of the fusion of opposites" (Anzaldua 69). Anzaldua discusses the importance and significance Coatilcue is for one coping wit painful experiences. Which occurs when reaches the "Coatilcue state". This state is a moment of transformation as the experiences that are gone through are brought on by that person and confronted. The "Coatlicue state" occurs when painful experiences are faced and confronted, leading to the realization of how you truly feel, which is how Anzaldua was lead to the state of depression. Although Anzaldua, explains that Coatlicue helps cope with these painful experiences and allow for the "Coatlicue state" to pass. Coatlicue allows these painful experiences to be reflected with time. The time will only allow one to, "assimilate previous experiences and process the changes" (Anzaldua 68). Time is allows one that has gone through painful experiences to reflect and prepare for the change.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue as Anzaldua describes it is the mixing of Aztec and Mexica goddesses. This fusion of a sole shows the duality amoung Latinas and helps them deal with pain and struggling, specifically tradegy. Reaching the Coatlicue state causes great pain and sorrow as the sole transforms to change the individuals perspective in seeing their life. The key concept with reaching the Coatlicue state is the change within a person. For each person this enlightenment stage and even Coatlicue herself is represented differently. Anzaldua says she sees her as "the goddess of birth and death" being that because of Anzaldua's struggle for exceptance in her culture she sees no middle ground so it is either one or the other- polar opposites (Anzaldua 69).
ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue state "depicts the contradictory... a symbol of the fusion of opposites." (Anzaldua 69) When a person enters this state, they experience feelings of shame upon themselves. According to Anzaldua, Coatlicue represents the "duality of life, a synthesis of duality, and a third perspective-- something more than mere duality or a synthesis of duality." (68) Coatlicue allows an individual to see oneself in all aspects rather than only what they are ashamed of. "...my sexual activity, my soul, my mind, my weaknesses and strengths." (Anzaldua 73) "Coatlicue gives life," (Anzaldua 68) which allows the individual to understand that they are never alone.
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ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue is a hybrid of goddesses that depict the transitions that Chicanas face throughout their lives. This goddess is comprised of many contradictory elements that represent both good and evil. Coatlicue is caught between two worlds which is something that has close ties to the Chicana experience. Feeling as though one must chose one of two spaces or belong to one more than the other. Coatlicue represents that an understanding of self is the most important piece in finding validation and accepting your two worlds. Coatlicue helps women cope with these painful experiences by representing the possibility of “duality in life”, a third perspective which acts as the cure to such “cosmic processes” (68).
ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue state allows the soul to “increase consciousness of itself” (Anzaldua 68). In the face of a difficult or painful situation the Coatlicue is needed to “slow us up so that the psyche can…process the changes” (Anzaldua 68). Coatlicue doesn’t work against the individual, it can lead him/or her “toward becoming more of who [they] are” but if the individual fails to make meaning out of the painful experiences, then they’ll remain meaningless.
ReplyDeleteI believe the use of your quote was both effective and fluid in answering the question. However, I am not so sure that a person can be considered to have gone through a Coatlicue state if as you say the individual fails to take a meaning from all the adversity they face during the journey. Also I feel your overall objective would be far more effective if you discussed the image of what Coatlicue means to the Aztecs.
DeleteThe “Coatlicue State is a moment of transformation in which the person can recognize him/herself and see the current position they are in. It brings about their current issues and the individual must become aware in order for them to face reality, but "there are many defense strategies that the self uses to escape the agony of inadequacy" there must be a confrontation to the sense of inadequacy and the person must understand who they are again from being overwhelmed by all their problems (Anzaldua 67). People are forced into this critical moment when they can no longer stand to the issues and need a force to help them move along in life by making the person "confront the face" of Coatlicue and reach the next phase for them to situate in (Anzaldua 70). This stage allows people to not dwell in problems and gives a forceful shove for people to regain consciousness and control of their life.
ReplyDeleteI really like your explanation. It contextualized the main aspects and gave a great perspective of what the state is.
DeleteThe Coatlicue State grants people the ability to reflect upon the contradictions they face through living in dualities. Living in dualities creates questions through both that leave people confused and feeling that they are inferior for not being able to fit fully into either culture or society and creates self-hatred, "...we only know that we are hurting, we suspect that there is something 'wrong' with us..."(Anzaldua 67). This can lead to people becoming stuck in issues of identity, through which Coatlicue helps by slowing "us up so that the psyche can assimilate previous experiences and process the changes", allowing people to learn and move forward as they confront new issues that show contradictions between the dualities their lives revolve around, "I am again alien in new territory. And again, and again. But if I escape conscious awareness, escape 'knowing', I won't be moving,"(Anzaldua 70). A person must confront these issues despite fearing the knowledge they may gain from it.
ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue statue is a collection of contradictions made up of all symbols important to the religion and philosophy of the Aztecs. Coatlicue is the “goddess of birth and death” (Anzaldua 68) and much like birth and death contradict, the Coatlicue state is no different. It is defined as a time of great suffering and struggle but it is also positive in that it allows the soul to become self conscious and self actualized with the person realizing who they really are. The person is forced into the Coatlicue state when they face adversity and feel inadequate or afraid but choose to avoid the problem at hand. The Coatlicue state forces us to face these painful experiences head on rather than participating in “compulsive, repetitious activity as though to busy oneself” (Anzaldua 67). In the Coatlicue state we are forced to look introspectively and find ourselves rather then avoid our inner conflicts.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue is an Aztec deity that represents dichotomy and contradictions; the "fusion of opposites" (Anzaldua 69). When people are presented with contradictions, if the dissonance is great enough they will enter the "Coatlicue State". This state helps one evaluate and truly understand internal conflicts. When one learns to embrace the dichotomy, they can reach enlightenment. If they cannot accept the contradictions in life, they cannot be "cradled in the arms of the Coatlicue" and cannot leave the Coatlicue State. The Coatlicue state allows one to be able to learn from painful experiences, be enlightened, and open to change.
ReplyDeleteThrough the “Coatlicue State” their is a "symbol of the underground aspects of the psyche" (68). With the transfusion of both life and death, this state allows consciousness and knowledge, which is something greater than "mere duality or a synthesis of duality" (68) which once attained causes the transformation and the contradictory. When the women of both the Aztec and Mexican roots comes to a clash in her understanding of her societal position and imposed beliefs, it is time to become Coatilcue to keep the "conscious mind occupied or immobile, the germination work takes place in the deep , dark earth of the unconscious" (69). Being either the life, or the death are what make the serpent and earthly state reach its ultimate potential, and deal with the pain, to make it something greater.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue represents the duality and dichotomy of experiences.identity and life on earth. She represents the struggle of the inner self trying to understand their own role and nature with the fragmented world as a whole. Coatlicue not only represents reflection of the cracks of earth but the transition into healing and consciousness. Coatlicue state transforms a stubborn mindset into a aware willing individual. Coatlicue state embarks on the journey from ignorance to knowledge because only knowledge can set pain free. The Coatlicue state allows an individual to move, move from the stagnation that pain has created. With Coatlicue we understand the contradictions of life and gain consciousness of life forward and a sense of self reflection. Anzaldua used the mirror as a great example of Coatlicue. Mirrors force you to look at yourself, it puts your own image in consciousness. Without the mirror you have not reach the transitional state of Coatlicue because you have not reach full consciousness and remain stuck in the constant fear and pain.
ReplyDeleteI think your statement about the coatlicue state emarking a journey from ignorance to knowledge and through knowledge can pain be set free. It is the idea of grasping a deeper sense of self and consciousness to be able to move beyond events and not stagnate within the past.
DeleteThe Coatlicue is the world of opposites "she is the symbol of the fusion of opposites:the eagle and the serpent'(69)Entering the state Coatlicue is reaching with in the soul like in trance Aztecs took apart in by looking into the mirror and seeing their reflection full of fear. Similarly when you enter a state of Coatlicue a window is opened where sorrow the dark sky and Coatlicue is the star to illuminate the real problem an shine light over the individuals path toward finding the comfort to find their place in a culture where a spectrum is a abstract idea beyond contemplation.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue is a collection of all of the significant symbols related to Aztec religion and philosophy. "She is a symbol of the fusion of opposites" (Anzaldua 69), her image is a representation of duality in life and how that duality can be used to create a third perspective. As Chicanos, we are forced into the Coatlicue state when we use addictions to, "escape the threat of shame or fear" (Anzaldua 67) caused by inadequacy. These addictions force us to become blind to our fear and we are unable to process this fear into our consciousness. Coatlicue helps us to cope with painful experiences by, "forcing us to 'rest'" (Anzaldua 68). These resting periods allow our soul to further its purpose and increase our consciousness.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue is the Aztec goddess who is a contradiction, a fusion of eagle and snake, predator and pray. Like the greek moster Medusa she is a representation of "life and death... beauty and horror"(Anzaldua 69) as she is a woman and their fore can give birth to new life but also has the ability to destroy life as well. The state is in "knowing" and sensing the cycle trapped within, yet not being able to escape it.
ReplyDeleteI think you did a good job answering all the questions. However, I think you should elaborate more on her ideas...more detail. But good job!
DeleteYou told me who coatlicue is, but you should focus in on explaining what "the coatlicue state" is.
DeleteIn chapter 4 of Borderlands/La Frontera Anzaldua talks about Coatlicue. She describes Coatlicue as a "symbol of the fusion of opposites." (Anzaldua 69) The Coatlicue state of transformation is meant to serve as a journey for one to recognize who they are and become one with their soul. A person is forced into this state when they are lost with themselves and do not fit in. Instead of trying to accept who they are, they try to hide and run away from the truth. Coatlicue helps us cope with pain by forcing us to enjoy our experience and therefore finding who we really are.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue is an Aztec diety who represents "a synthesis of duality". "She is a symbol of the fusion of opposites: life and death...beauty and horror"(68-9). The "Coatlicue state" can be defined as an "internal whirlwind" which "gives and takes away life". To be in the "Coatlicue state" is to be in need of self-validation and experiencing an internal conflict. When an individual experiences self-doubt they are unable to protect themselves and create many defense strategies to revert their attention towards something else. " Held in thrall by ones obseesion,...one is not empty enough to become possessed by anything or anyone"(67). Coatlicue "slows us up so that the psyche can assimilate previous experiences and process the changes"(68). Chicanas may often face this once in America, struggling to find their identity, stuck between Western perceptions and their cultural perspectives of them. Coatlicue empowers Chicanas and all women by giving them insight of their experiences and establishing a self identity.
ReplyDeleteBaele, the full quote when you say that Coatlicue is "a synthesis of duality" is actually "something more than mere duality of a synthesis of duality," (Anzaldua, 68), disproving your statement. Other than that, I enjoyed your statement.
DeleteAccording to Anzaldua, the Coatlicue state is a time of enlightenment, a time where you learn from and overcome painful experiences. The coatlicue represents a type of awareness, of understanding the present and of learning how to evaluate personal conflicts. The Coatlicue helps us process change and differences, this deity forces us to face and overcome painful memories and afflicting conflicts we may have tried to ignore.
ReplyDeleteInteresting take on the topic, I would recommend elaborating on how the Coatlicue State helps us process differences and changes, and what the end outcome may be to the Coatlicue State.
DeleteAnzaldua places great importance on the Coatlicue, calling her a "duality in life... and a third perspective." (Anzaldua 68) The coatlicue depicts the contradictory in life (Anzaldua 69) that is present for people struggling with this sense of duality within their own lives. Through exploration of the idea of the fusion of opposites embodied within Chicanos and Mexican-Americans, the world of the hyphen and the clashing of two cultures, people are able to deepen the consciousness of themselves. The Coatlicue state allows people to see themselves through the obsidian mirror and the eyes of the Coatlicue which is a step towards making sense of the boundaries and contradictions of the world around them, making a "traviesa" (Anzaldua 70) into a deeper state of self-awareness. Through this awareness can people feel "magnitized toward that center. Completa." (Anzaldua 73) that sense of being complete is a presence that never leaves the soul. It helps to cope with painful experiences by removing the sense of fear and being afraid because one is made aware of a stronger, more unified self.
ReplyDeleteI agree on the outcome but it is more than just opposites colliding. Anzaldua describes the female religious figures as synonymous throughout her chapter. But also, Anzaldua makes opposites and synonyms as very ambiguous phrases. Sometimes stating that one turns into the other.
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ReplyDeleteIn chapter four of Borderlands, Gloria Anzaldua explains of a Coatlicue state. The spiritual Coatlicue state is one that an individual may enter after a traumatic experience such as being ostracized from one's society and or culture. The Coatlicue state will be the trying period of time where one is able to find a sense of self, identity, and self validation, by using the previous painful or traumatic experience to lead them to these newfound senses. In the real world, the Coatlicue state is entered by many, those who are discriminated against for attempting to be what they feel they are, such as gay or homosexual, when shunned from society they may enter a period of self-doubt on what their own personal identity is and place in the world may be, which leads them to the Coatlicue state, where they use their prior experiences to validate themselves and eventually emerge with the identity they are proud of and are willing to show.
Coatlicue is the mother of Gods and thus is worshiped for the creation of life and death on Earth. However, there are many people who worship La Virgin de Guadalupe, a Westernized, desexualized, and a less threatening to the male possession of power (power to command and destroy), version of Coatlicue. Those who experience the Coatlicue State attempt to transition from a passive lifestyle of blindly following religion and what is "right" into a more proactive lifestyle by questioning the significance of La Virgin, if it is Coatlicue they internalize instead, what it all means to the individual and how they can act upon it accordingly. However, the transition leaves individuals feeling "exposed and opened to the depth of [their] dissatisfaction" and afraid of looking into "Coatlicue's eyes, her hollow sockets" (70). Facing her eyes represents facing the truth, knowledge that makes individuals "more aware, makes [them] more conscious" (70) but that is painful. There is fear in knowing the truth, in facing the reality of death in Coatlicue and in being alienated for questioning divinity and embracing the serpent of life, death, sex, mind, and individualism. At the same time, Coatlicue helps cope with that pain by instilling faith in those who believe in her. Yes, there is death, but there is always "another rattlesnake [that] appears...suddenly the repressed energy rises, makes decisions, connects with conscious energy and a new life begins" (71). Within individuals' time on earth, Coatlicue can guide them from life to death, never leaving them alone, but to avoid fear (of the unknown) there has to be trust in the life and death and consciousness in the worship of such religion.
ReplyDeleteYou established the relationship between the Coatlicue state and modern religion well. That connection is important in understanding the pathway to and beyond the coatlicue state. I also loved the consistency of your support. You backed up each point well.
DeleteIn Chapter 4, Gloria Anzaldua describes coatlicue as a combination of all "symbols important to the religion and philosophy of the Aztecs" as well as "a fusion of opposites"(Anzaldua 69). The coatlicue state is a state of transformation in which a one takes the time to stop and think about the meaning of their pain and experiences in order to make a clear sense of who you are. Anzaldua mentions that in the state of Coatlicue, one can either find the meaning to their dissapointments and experiences or "they can remain meaningless" as well as ones identity(Anzaldua 68). People often try to avoid confronting their problems and facing reality but Coatlicue helps them find a meaning to their problems in order to define who you are.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter four of Borderlands La Frontera, Anzaldúa describes Coatlicue, a combination of prominent Aztec figures, and the Coatlique state. Being entranced by the Coatilcue state allows individuals to "escape the threat of shame or fear" (Anzaldúa 67), and to gain consciousness about oneself. Anzaldúa proceeds by stating, "knowledge makes me more aware, it makes me more conscious" (Anzaldúa 70). Reaching the Coatlicue state is no simple task, mostly because many people subconsciously make it impossible for themselves, due to their fast pace lifestyles. In order to allow individuals to slow down enough to gain consciousness, Coatlicue may impart an illness to allow individuals the "down time" that they need to reflect on themselves. The Coatlicue state is a time of self reflection to gain a sense of personal awareness and consciousness.
ReplyDeleteGloria Anzaldua introduces "the coatlicue state" in chapter four of Borderlands as a "defense strategy that the self uses to escape the agony of inadequacy" (Anzaldua 67). In this chapter, Anzaldua talks a lot about having a sort of "sixth sense" because believes in the supernatural, can sense the presence of spirits and thinks that everyone can do this as well, they just have to unlock it. Coatlicue was the mother of the gods, so being in a "coatlicue state" meant being in a painful experience that "could lead us toward becoming more of who we are" (68). "The coatlicue state" also keeps us grounded and conscious.
ReplyDeleteI really like your first quote, it's a strong way to introduce your point and it's an interesting definition of the Coatlicue state. I also like how you bring up the supernatural element because it was such an important part of the chapter. Maybe go into just a little more detail in your explanation of the quotes, especially what "agony of inadequacy" means.
DeleteI agree, the first quote was a really strong way to begin your argument. I think you needed to go into detail when explaining the how it is we enter the Coatlicue state.
DeleteCoatlicue is the secrets and essence of La Virgen that was filtered out of her original manifestation as a mesoamerican deity and more fitting for the new western civilization. La Virgen was a symbol created to become non-threatening to male dominance. The Coatlicue state is a transitional state into absolute understanding of your individualism while maintaining your culture and religion. To enter this critical state one must unconditionally face truth in mind body and sexuality. Women must realize their roles as the oppressed and become self-sufficient in validation. The Coatlicue state promotes that it is okay to "take matters into my own hands, and eventually take dominion over serpents" (Anzaldua 73) and by being okay with your pain as being someone different. Woman must understand that they are human and In Lak'ech. Coatlicue is road of greater acceptance about wholesomeness. Coatlicue promotes the cyclical and necessary elements like life, death, and pain. Coatlicue speaks softly that it is okay to say "ouch" as it is all a part of life.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue is the embodiment of duality. Coatlicue is the "Goddess of birth and death"(Anzaldua 68) she "gives and takes away life" (68). Coatlicue helps people overcome pain by healing it with life. Coatlicue enables people to transition from one inevitable state to another. Resisting the inevitable is what brings on the Coatlicue state. Even Anzaldua herself states that "My resistance, my refusal to know some truth about myself brings on that paralysis,depression—brings on the Coatlicue state" (70). Essentially when you deny Coatlicue, you are denying your mother, for the reason that she is the mother of all things. Denying your mother is equivalent to denying a part of yourself and until an individual gives recognition to Coatlicue, the mother they will ultimately be perpetuating their individualistic cycle of pain.
ReplyDeleteI really like the connection you formed about how the denial of your mother is a denial of a part of yourself. Coatlicue is really about truth and knowledge and I think you articulated that well.
DeleteAnzaldua writes that Caoatlicue is so that "the psyche can assimilate previous experiences and process the changes." (68) These previous experiences stretch far back beyond one's own memory and into a collective postmemory, a shared consciousness. In this Coatlicue state Anzaldua finds God within herself, whom she calls "Antigua, mi Diosa." (72) She is one with Gods, Godesses, and Saints from her ethnicities' pasts. It comes from being isolated oppressed. The sate is a universe that is "just ours, mine." (Anzaldua 73) She tells us that repetition helps sufferers in trauma. The repetition is found in the continuing cycles of history, such as how this creator goddess has transformed over centuries.
ReplyDeleteWell stated. You have given me a different perspective on Coatlicue. The trauma is relieved by creating an alternative universe?
DeleteGloria Anzaldua describes Coatlicue as being the “goddess of birth and death” thus representing the “ duality in life” (Anzaldua 68). Anzaldua imagines her as being earthy or mountainous since she has the ability to give and take away life. Her description is key to understanding the Coatlicue state which is triggered by stress and depression because it has the ability to relieve both. Coatlicue hands (that is in the form of a necklace) give life and her skull takes it. She is a “fusion of opposites” (Anzaldua 69). When you become depressed Coatlicue keeps your mind active in order to prevent thinking about present worries. Coatlicue allows you to descend into another realm, the imagination is relieving.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter 4 of Borderlands, Gloria Anzaldúa describes Coatlicue, the Aztec goddess of Earth, life, and death, as a “symbol of the fusion of opposites,” (Anzaldúa 69). By encompassing “the eagle and the serpent, heaven and the underworld… beauty and horror,” (Anzaldúa 69) Coatlicue becomes a mestizo of her own, a borderland between contradicting elements. The Coatlicue state is the point in one’s life when one is in their own borderland, a “prelude to crossing” (Anzaldúa 70). This crossing follows a painful event, and it builds strength from weakness. Through processing weakness into strength, we are able to cope with pain by healing wounds into scabs. To heal the painful transition from weak to strong, we must “let the wound caused by the serpent be cured by the serpent,” (Anzaldúa 72).
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ReplyDeleteLa Coatlicue is a figure for the Aztecs that symbolizes “the fusion of opposites” (69). The Coatlicue state is seen as a “consuming internal whirlwind” and the “symbol of the underground aspects of the psyche” (68). Coatlicue helps cope with painful experiences because internalizing “disappointments and painful experiences” can help process change. Change is ineludible, and accepting this adaptation helps transition into the unknown. Fear of the unknown prevents progressive change, and the Coatlicue state can be a way station or it can be a way of life” (68).
ReplyDeleteLa Coatlicue depicts the contradictory. For the Aztecs, Coatlicue "is a symbol of the fusion of opposites." (Anzaldua 69) She is the goddess of life and death, mobility and immobility, and beauty and horror. By being a goddess of contradiction she is a goddess of ultimate understanding because she acknowledges all sides of the life process. As for Coatlicue as a state, one is forced into it when they show resistance to know the truth about themselves. It is a moment of transformation because the Coatlicue state causes knowledge and "knowing ispainful because after it happens I can't stay in the same place and be comfortable." (Anzaldua 70) This Coatlicue state helps when coping with painful experiences because it holds us together, converting our old ignorance into newfound consciousness.
ReplyDeleteAccording to Anzaldua, Coatlicue describes both an Aztec goddess, who embodies the concept of unified opposites, being a goddess of life, death, mobility, immobility, terror, and beauty, and the state of Coatlicue, defined as a sort of emotional borderland, a state reached when attempting to deny the obvious or inevitable produces mental discord. This state helps one to cope with harsh facts or realities by either diverting attention from them until one is ready to deal with them, or actually creating circumstances that facilitate working through the problem.
ReplyDeleteCoatlicue represents the "contradictory" and entering the Coatlicue state is a result of feeling ostracized for being different. Like with Celaya from Caramelo, a novel by Sandra Cisneros, a person enters the Coatlicue state in order to find inner peace and define oneself. Celaya knew she was a contradiction herself- her American side contradicted her Mexican side and therefore she was condemned by her grandmother as an "unnatural" person just like the inhabitants of the borderlands.
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DeleteI enjoyed how you made a connection between Borderlands and another piece of Latino literature. It would be made stronger by some textual support.
Anzaldua states that she enters the Coatlicue state when she resists and refuses to acknowledge a truth about herself. She states that often when she is first entering into this state she resists it and tries to fight it off, she even becomes angry that she is being forced to acknowledge something that she does not wish to acknowledge. According to Anzaldua Coatlicue helps us to cope with painful experiences by giving us the knowledge and consciousness to deal with our traumas- she gives us insight to better understand the circumstance we are dealing with.
ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue State offers an option contrary to dualistic thinking. It is a third opposite. “Something more than mere duality or a synthesis of duality,” (Anzaldua, 68). It encompasses two rivaled ideas, yet at the same time is not either one nor a combination of the two. Usually arising from oppression of the self, it is a new idea. It is a transgressive state of consciousness ultimately leading its host to a new identity that one cannot return from.
ReplyDeleteIn relation to Gloria Anzaldua, the Coatlicue State is the self oppressed in and by the traditional Mexican world; the self oppressed in and by the Anglo world; and the self-in-between. The contrasting Mexican world and Anglo world have led Anzaldua to a new self, the New Mestiza. Coatlicue is an extremely difficult transition period, full of doubt and insecurity. The end result of the Coatlicue State is not easily seen before one begins the healing process of Coatlicue. There is security in oppression. There is a false sense of safety when being trapped in a societal role, even an undesirable role completely based on impersonal judgements such as gender or race. It is easy to let someone tell you who you are. Anglo-American society has romanticized the personal creation of identity, so much so that many people are deluded as to what it really means to define oneself in the midst of societal oppression. Anzaldua, being oppressed and defined by two societies, the Mexican and Anglo-American, was motivated to face her insecurity and risk conscious expulsion from both societies in order to enter into this Coatlicue State.
In chapter 4, Anzaldua introduces Coatlicue. She describes Coatlicue as the "goddess of birth and death" (Anzaldua 68). She also describes the coatlique state that is not very easy to reach, this sate is triggered through depression and stress. This state can relieve both and it helps one be more conscious of themselves. Coatlicue takes the mind away from anything bad and keeps it active to not worry about the mess of today.
ReplyDeleteThe Coatlicue State eases the pains of being abnormal by allowing one to enter a transformation that gives them a new perspective. The Coatlicue State is one similar to a depression or illness, an awareness that is void of distractions. People fear Coatlicue and distract themselves to be " not empty enough to be possessed by [Coatlicue]"(Anzaldúa,67). By taking the time to look into the "mirror" (into oneself), the hurting enters a long, painful transformation. This transformation "fights [Anzaldúa] every inch of the way"(Anzaldúa,71), which is why people are so fearful of the Coatlicue State. At the end of this transformation, one is given a new view of the world, and she becomes complete. "I feel everything rushing to a center […]. Completa."( Anzaldúa,73). After emerging from the Coatlicue State, we become complete.
ReplyDeleteYour description of the transformation that occurs in the Coatlicue state is interesting. The thought that it is to ease the pain of being abnormal is complex because it is hard to find a true definition of what abnormal is.
DeleteMentioned in the previous chapter, Coatlicue is the Lady of the Serpent Skirt who “balanced the dualities of male and female, light and dark, life and death” (Anzaldua 54). This duality, inherent in the understand of Coatlicue as a deity, lends itself to what is referred to as the Coatlicue state. This state is the duality of seeing and being seen; it is brought on by grief and shame. This state is used to cope with life and one’s experiences because it creates a sort of double consciousness where one can see the world while simultaneously being examined themselves. The knowledge that can come from this double vision can stimulate the Coatlicue state as well when it is resisted, when the “refusal to know some truth about myself brings on that paralysis, depression” (Anzaldua 70). The Coatlicue state helps one cope with life because it creates the double vision necessary to contextualize the experience into all of the experiences of life and the world as a whole.
ReplyDeleteThe Aztec goddess Coatlicue is the mother of the moon, stars, and the god of the sun and water know as Huitzilopochtli. The goddess wears a skirt of serpents meaning to be “a symbol of the fusion of opposites” (pg. 69). The Coatlicue state is exactly the fusion of opposites yet applied to a person character. When used as a allegory to the Chicana movement it give insight into how a woman is able to believe her culture/religion yet also be unable to believe in the empowerment of herself. Anzaldua states, “Simultaneously, depending on the person, she represents: duality in life, a synthesis of duality, and a third perspective- something more than mere duality or a synthesis of duality” (pg. 68) explaining how the Chicana is no longer the object of duality but the mothers of a new cultural understanding. This new understand is not a coping mechanism used to make life easier but instead ideas birthed out of necessity due to social change. The Coatlicue state is used to empower new ideas along with the people that aren't.
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